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If you lot had told u.s. just four days ago that the Biden administration was funding hush-hush bio labs in Ukraine of all places, nosotros would non have believed you lot. Yes, I don't remember we're going to put that on TV. No thank you.

Then, if y'all told u.s.a. that non only did the assistants fund these undercover bio labs in Ukraine, but that they then failed to secure the deadly contents of those labs earlier the Russian invasion—an invasion they knew was coming, an invasion they helped encourage—if you had told united states that iv days agone, nosotros would have dismissed you as a nut. It was only too preposterous. We will not want annihilation to do with a story like that. At that place was no way information technology could be true. Information technology was as well far out. In any case, we already knew for a fact that that story was simulated. How exercise we know that? Considering we read U.s.a. Today, America'southward paper.

Within hours of the Russian invasion, USA Today published a rebuttal to all those crazies who were yammering on about clandestine Ukrainian bio labs. Here was the headline: "Fact check: False merits of US biolabs in Ukraine tied to Russian disinformation campaign."

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The U.S. Department of State is seen on January 6, 2020 in Washington, DC. 

The U.S. Department of State is seen on Jan 6, 2020 in Washington, DC. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

So, if y'all look advisedly at the story—and we did because nosotros were interested—you lot notice that this fact cheque was sourced to Ukrainian government unnamed officials and then Biden Country Department officials. These were non exactly objective sources on this subject, just however the story seemed definitive. It was totally emphatic. "Russia has teamed upward with China to farther amplify the fake merits of U.Due south. labs in Ukraine."

OK. The states Today says it's Russian disinformation. Maybe information technology is. On to the adjacent story, merely the fact checks didn't stop. That was weird. We kept seeing the same check again and again. It was nigh like despite endless official description, some people refused to believe the Biden administration. They preferred Russian propaganda instead and we assume they must exist QAnon members. We presume that because Foreign Policy Magazine told us that. According to Foreign Policy, QAnon, whatever that is, was frantically disseminating "false claims of U.S. bio warfare labs in Ukraine."

Those labs apparently didn't exist. It was all just another lie from the Russians who prevarication for a living. Then the European Union... weighed in, throwing its brownie backside the aforementioned merits. These are conspiracy theories, the EU told usa, they're lies spread past Putin. An European union spokesmen then reminded usa that, "the credibility of data provided past the Kremlin is in general, very doubtful and low." That was good to know.

"Russian disinformation has a track record of promoting manipulative narratives near biological weapons and alleged secret labs."

Yeah. We're not going to do a segment about hugger-mugger labs in Ukraine. Terminal affair we desire to do on this show is traffic in Russian disinformation spread by QAnon, so we took a laissez passer on that story. And that's where things stood until yesterday when we happened to tune in to a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Toria Nuland was testifying and so nosotros were interested. Nuland was one of the people who brought us the Iraq War, never apologized for that and kept getting promoted considering that's how DC works. Toria Nuland is at present Joe Biden'due south Nether Secretary of Land in charge of Ukraine and she knows a lot nigh Ukraine.

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Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC.

Undersecretary of Land for Political Diplomacy Victoria Nuland testifies earlier a Senate Foreign Relation Commission hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

In 2014, Toria Nuland engineered a insurrection in Ukraine in the proper noun of commonwealth, of form. So, she is a highly informed source near Ukraine. So, she was having this colloquy with Senator Marco Rubio of Florida during her testimony, and at one point, Rubio took a tack that nosotros were non expecting at all. He asked Nuland if Ukraine had biological weapons.

We never imagined Ukraine would have biological weapons. Why would Ukraine accept bioweapons? So, it seemed like a pretty foreign question, but it wasn't one-half as shocking as the answer he got. Here's what Toria Nuland said.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?

VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has a biological research facilities, which, In fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to proceeds control of. And then, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent whatever of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

Does Ukraine have biological weapons? Ugh, Ukraine has biological enquiry facilities. What? You hateful secret bio labs like the undercover bio labs that Ukraine definitely doesn't have? Ukraine has those? Yes, information technology does. And non only does Ukraine have underground bio labs, Toria Nuland said, any they're doing in those labs is and so unsafe and then scary that she is, "quite concerned" that the and so-called research textile inside those bio labs might fall into the hands of Russian forces.

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Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Foreign Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. 

Nether Secretary of Country for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testifies before a Senate Strange Relation Committee hearing on Ukraine on March 08, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Effort not to apply profanity on the air to describe our reaction. Our jaws dropped, permit's leave it in that location. Under oath in an open committee hearing, Toria Nuland but confirmed that the Russian disinformation they've been telling united states for days is a lie and a conspiracy theory and crazy and immoral to believe is, in fact, totally and completely truthful.

Woah, you lot don't hear things like that every mean solar day in Washington. Talk nearly a showstopper and a dozen questions instantly bound to heed. What exactly are they doing in these secret Ukrainian bio labs? Ukraine is the poorest land in Europe. It'due south hardly a hotbed of biomedical inquiry. We're assuming these weren't pharmaceutical labs, probably non developing new Leukemia drugs. From your answer, Toria Nuland, we would assume because you all but said it, that there's a military awarding to this research, that they were working on bioweapons. Again, your answer suggests that.

Why would we fund something like that in Ukraine, and why didn't you secure the contents of these bio labs before the Russians arrived as yous knew they would? Then why did you become out of your fashion to lie to the American public most all of this? If the "enquiry materials" in these labs were to escape somehow and you seem very concerned about that, what would be the effect on Ukraine and so on the residue of the world? How can we prepare for the consequences of that, this matter that you're worried well-nigh? Shouldn't we be preparing? Because as it turns out, we've just spent the final 2 years living with the pathogen that began in another foreign bio lab funded by the United States government secretly.

And so, this question is on our mind. It seems fair. Now that's some of what we would accept asked if nosotros were U.S. Senators, which were not. Yes, there's a time limit. Time limit be damned because this is kind of important, but Rubio did non enquire those questions. Instead, he changed the subject area and told united states of america once again that Vladimir Putin is bad.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO: If in that location is a biological or chemical weapon incident or... attack inside of Ukraine, is in that location whatever doubt in your heed that 100%, it would be the Russians that would exist behind it?

VICTORIA NULAND:  There is no doubt in my heed, senator, and it is archetype Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.

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Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on Feb. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. 

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., speaks during the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at The Rosen Shingle Creek on Feb. 25, 2022, in Orlando, Florida. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

OK, just get a pen. Information technology'southward a classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy, what they are planning to practise themselves. That's what Toria Nuland said. We almost laughed out loud. And so, what you're saying, Toria Nuland, if, for example, you were funding secret bio labs in Ukraine, but wanted to hide that fact from the people who are paying for it, in whose name you were doing information technology, and then you might lie about it by challenge the Russians were lying about information technology. In other words, you might mount a disinformation entrada by claiming the other guy was mounting a disinformation campaign. Is that what you're saying, Toria Nuland? Information technology's pretty funny.

What's not funny is that this is all entirely real. Nosotros invited Marco Rubio on the show tonight to tell usa what he knows near these bio labs. He declined to come. That invitation remains open up. In the concurrently, let's review what lilliputian nosotros do know near this. Nosotros're going to start with a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry on Sunday. Now, we would never practice this. Nosotros never played anything like this on the show before because of course, we're Americans and when we desire to know what'south going on we ask our own officials, the people nosotros elect and whose salaries we pay, because it's our country.

Nosotros don't go to foreign sources considering we trust our ain sources first. But when information technology turns out the people who stand for us and run our authorities are lying to us and never apologize for it and doing horrific things in our names, then you accept to open your heed a little bit and at least assess what other people are proverb. So, here was the Russian claim.

IGOR KONASHENKOV: During the grade of the special war machine operation, facts were uncovered of the fundamental regime, mopping up traces of armed services biological program nether development in Ukraine, financed by the U.South. Defense Ministry.

OK. Then, that evidently—nosotros hadn't seen that until this afternoon we started poking around—that may have been the root of the conspiracy theories that the fact checks told the states were Russian disinformation. Allow's quote it: "Military biological programs are under evolution in Ukraine, financed past the U.S. Defence Ministry." That's the Russian claim.

Separately, a Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said the Ukrainians were working on mortiferous pathogens, including plague and anthrax. Is that true? Now, evidently, we would not take Russia's discussion for that always, only nosotros don't have to take Russian federation's discussion for that. The U.S. Defence force Department has a website that contains this media prune about the opening of a biological research facility in Ukraine in 2010.

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Chief of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defence Ministry, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press briefing on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syria. 

Main of the Media Service and Information Directorate of the Russian Defense Ministry, Maj Gen Igor Konashenkov, gives a press briefing on the situation in the Idlib buffer zone in Syria. (Vadim SavitskyTASS via Getty Images)

"U.S. Senator Dick Lugar applauded the opening of the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa, Ukraine, this week, announcing that it volition exist instrumental in researching dangerous pathogens used by bioterrorists. The level-3 bio-safety lab will exist used to report anthrax, tularemia and Q Fever, too as other dangerous pathogens."

Oh, OK. Then the National Pulse dug up 2011 report from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences that besides explained that the Odessa based laboratory "is responsible for the identification of especially dangerous biological pathogens." So, what we're doing—this is not the first time you've heard this story—we are funding the creation of mortiferous pathogens so we can report them and preclude people from getting infected with them. Maybe? There are lots of examples of this. The U.S. Diplomatic mission in Ukraine has a handy web page explaining that American and Ukrainian scientists take worked on a whole bunch of dissimilar experiments like this.

Some of the projects include piece of work on African swine fever virus, hemorrhagic fever virus, and diverse respiratory viruses. The interesting thing, the telling thing, is that the U.S. Embassy'southward website also contains links to fact sheets about America'southward back up for biological enquiry in Ukraine, just all those links are now expressionless. That'south weird. It's our government. We pay for it. Once more, they're at that place in our name, in the proper name of American citizens, just we can no longer read their web page. How does that work, exactly? They accept no right to lie to us.

The spider web page is archived, thankfully, and the fact sheets show Defense Department funding to laboratories in Ukraine. So that looks similar proof. It's not Russian disinformation. It's totally real. Sorry U.s. Today, America's newspaper, information technology's real. You can look it up on the internet if you want. In the face of that prove, the Pentagon is even so lying about and in fact, they're repeating the same unbelievably stupid and now thoroughly discredited lies the fact checkers accept told for weeks now. Hither's the spokesman for the Pentagon, John Kirby, today.

JOHN KIRBY:  The Russian accusations are absurd. They're laughable and, you know, in the words of my Irish Catholic grandfather, a bunch of malarkey. At that place's zilch to it. It'southward classic Russian propaganda and I wouldn't, if I were you,...I wouldn't give information technology a driblet of ink worth...paying attention to.

REPORTER: Yeah, but tin yous explain to us what...has there been any relationship between the...?

JOHN KIRBY:  We are not, not, developing biological or chemical weapons within Ukraine. It's non happening.

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If I were you, I wouldn't devote a drop of ink to information technology. Beginning of all, you didn't get to make that decision, Mr. Bureaucrat. We have a free press in this land. Yous don't get to determine, but you'll notice at the terminate of that, Kirby refuses to respond the question. Has there been any relationship between the U.Southward. Pentagon and a bioweapons facility in Ukraine and if and so, what is that relationship? That's Russian disinformation! What'due south the answer? Nosotros're non developing WMD in Ukraine correct now! OK, got information technology, merely why are we funding this and what exactly are nosotros funding?

We reached out to the State Department separately and they provided us with this very carefully worded statement: "The U.South. Section of Defense does non own or operate biological laboratories in Ukraine." Not that anyone said they did. Continuing the quote, "Undersecretary Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony, which are not biological weapons facilities." What's the difference exactly? Continuing the quote, "These institutions counter biological threats throughout the state."

So that means nothing. You lot could describe our nuclear stockpile correctly equally defensive. Our nuclear weapons are not designed to preemptively impale anybody. They're designed to forbid other people from killing us, but they're still nuclear weapons. And so, when yous stop lying and telling the states what's going on hither and why don't you more specifically tell us why you didn't secure these materials? So, yes, we're funding underground bio labs in Ukraine, just they are diagnostic and biodefense laboratories that counter biological threats.

OK, if these are purely defensive labs, why was Toria Nuland and then concerned that Russians would get ahold of the materials from these facilities? Other world powers have come to the obvious conclusion. Over again, we hate to exercise this, just nether these circumstances, we asked our own spokespeople, they lied. We're going to the Foreign Ministry of China, a country nosotros despise. Here's what they said today. They're calling on weapons inspectors to take a look at these facilities in Ukraine right abroad.

ZHAO LIJIAN: Over the past two decades, the United States has been blocking the establishment of a verification regime to the Biological Weapons Convention and refused to take the inspection of biological facilities within and outside its borders. The move has further aggravated the concern of the international community. We, once again, urge the U.S. to provide total description of its bio militarization activities inside and outside its borders and accept multilateral verification.

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Oh, they're putting Russian and Chinese propaganda on the screen! Yeah, we did. Nosotros likewise put U.S. government propaganda on the screen and the difference is nosotros await to be lied to past foreign governments. Nosotros're not globalists. We believe in i state. It'southward this country, the Us. We exercise not expect to be lied to past our government and we won't take it. Only let'southward become to the substance of what the Chinese regime just said. We never agree with the Chinese government on anything, but in this case, they brand a off-white point. We at present know that unsafe biological agents, whether y'all call them weapons or not is completely irrelevant because they can exist used as weapons. Is a gun a weapon? Not when you're quail hunting. When yous're in a gunfight, information technology is. It'south a ridiculous semantic debate.

Dangerous biological agents remain, thanks to the Biden administration, unsecured in a chaotic war zone. At some signal we need to know how that happened, who made those decisions. Nosotros accept a right to know and let's hope someone in Congress, probably non Marco Rubio, only someone else, will get to the bottom of it, but in the meantime, nosotros pray that somewhere, in the United states of america government, there as an adult who cares plenty to get this situation under control immediately.

This commodity is adapted from Tucker Carlson'southward opening commentary on the March nine, 2022 edition of "Tucker Carlson Tonight."